IceMan said:
Hmm..I think that we've been through this before on another thread.
Yep..field corn feeds the beasts we eat. It's a chain effect. Man does not live by corn alone. Use the field corn for the car...and the beasts have less. Make car food in high demand...lessens the beast feed to nourish the meat food to feed the driver that puts the beast's corn in the car. Turn other food fields into corn fields to feed the car demands less food for the man. Only so much land to feed the car then feed the beast that feeds the man..and if you want vegetables with that better put a garden in the back yard....
Exactly! and that's what all the enviro-nuts don't get. You don't get something for nothing, there is always a trade off and making any other energy source results in a net loss when you count all the beans. Except for oil because it's already there and ready to go since millions of years ago....1.5 units of energy in to get it...and 30 units of energy out !
The more efficient we become the quicker we cut our throats! A crude example is this.... Let's say I trade in my V8 truck and go out and buy a Toyota Prius. I find at the end of the year I've saved $2000 in fuel...wow, amazing, I just saved a little bit towards the evironment and burned less fuel and reduced the effects of global warming...WRONG...Having an extra $2000 in your pocket enables you to then go out and buy that bigger TV, hop on a plane and take a vacation, remodel your kitchen, go out to dinner a little more often ect...ect...ect.. All of which those things and it's infrastructure takes Energy and oil to create, build, distribute and maintain. You didn't use any more or less engergy, you didn't contribute any more or less pollution...you just transfered it in a different manner.