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Re: Cold Air Intake up date installed in Feb 2011 video added Aug 20

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Well the CAI



HERE is a slide show of pictures below
http://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/sets/72157626019751072/show/

has been installed now



since Feb 11, 2011 and we have now put several tanks of fuel in to say it does have a modest change on fuel economy.
A drop from a average of 14-15l /100km we are now down to 11.2 is the average.
8600km on the Terrain with Royal Purple 2 oil changes so far the next will be at 10,000.
When i get time I will scan and see what the readings are now after the change to the CAI.

But my MRS is very happy now she wants the DUAL exhaust out.Which I have my exhaust show already with a parts list once we get some spare $$

For those who have asked me does this make a audio-able change yes it does, now the 2.4L has a growl to it ;)

Had a blast last weekend.Had another Terrain 2.4L pull up to us at a light.And the race was on. Next night he asked what the heck have we done!! So we ended up having a coffee and he was off to order one.

CHEERS :p
 

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So you're saying that the cold air intake actually made your gas mileage (or whatever you guys use) worse? ???
 

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Which I have my exhaust show already with a parts list once we get some spare $$

What dual exhaust package are you looking at?[/color]
 

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NoobNox said:
So you're saying that the cold air intake actually made your gas mileage (or whatever you guys use) worse? ???
He said his gas consumption is lower - i.e. he consumes less gas, which is a good thing ! That is what "those guys use". BTW - they look just like "us", they just happpen to have a different metric for measuring automotive efficiency, and many in the World happen to think that "their way" is better.
 

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Which I have my exhaust show already with a parts list once we get some spare $$

What dual exhaust package are you looking at?[/color]
I will post the shopping list once it is done.
The muffler is a stainless single in dual out plus high flow cat.The key is going to be all new exhaust custom bent in ( or shall I say less bends) exhaust.Nothing but the muffler and cat will be a catalog item.The same exhaust shop that will be doing this has made our custom headers for our race cars our other vehicles plus our customers cars ect.
 

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RIT333 said:
He said his gas consumption is lower - i.e. he consumes less gas, which is a good thing ! That is what "those guys use". BTW - they look just like "us", they just happpen to have a different metric for measuring automotive efficiency, and many in the World happen to think that "their way" is better.
Yes the fuel economy is BETTER for sure.

their way

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/magazine/6989244.stm

http://www.metric4us.com/whynot.html

METRIC 4 US!

Home Why metric? Why not English? Calculator

Let's have a look what supporters of the English Imperial system have to say and why it's all nonsense:
We have a perfectly good measuring system, so why does the USA have to change to using the metric system?

No, we don't have a perfectly good measuring system! We have a clumsy, entangled, confusing measuring system! And it not only confuses the rest of the world - no, it perplexes Americans themselves!

If you go to buy carpeting, and you need 100 square feet, the carpet costs $10 per square yard, could you, even given these simple numbers, ever figure out how much you'll pay? Which is more, 2 quarts, 5 pints or 36 fl oz? How many pints are in a gallon? How many pounds are 200 ounces? Which drill is the larger - the 13/64, the 1/4 or the 5/32? Two cities on a map are 10 inches apart - what is their real world distance?

Do you have to default on these questions? Then you have a problem - a problem called English Imperial system.

But the English system represents our culture and traditions, it's our heritage - we can't give it up!

First of all - the English system is not American - it's English! So on which cultural grounds are you claiming something English as American heritage while you reject something French as alien?

In fact, a large part of American culture is actually European culture, not only is the measuring system, but also language, religion, architecture etc. Sure did Americans tweak this heritage, but the essence stays European. On the other hand, many innovations are originally American, like much modern technology, music culture, and life-style - and these are truly to be proud of. The English system though is definitely not among them - it's not American, and it's not to be proud of either.

The world is continuously changing, and humans are ceaselessly improving their living conditions. That includes getting rid of old, stupid procedures and habits, and acquiring new, more intelligent procedures and habits.

Don't you think it caused a hell of a protest each time the English system 'evolved'? When all the slightly different feet were unified in one standard foot, all the pounds in one pound, all the various gallons in one gallon. How many beloved medieval units had to go and how many Englishmen were plunged into an identity crisis to make room for what is now called English system!

Culture and traditions of the U.S. as a young country were always evolving and changing - they were defined and are maintained and represented by the people who live here. Now it is time to define a new part of culture. Would you really stick with a stupid habit just because you always did it such a way? Would you continue to use a horse cart instead of a van just to honor your grandfather who always used one? Would you dig a well in your garden instead of having running water just because that's where all your ancestors got their water from? Can you be truly proud of something that is silly?

And, most importantly, would you not take some good advice just because it was not your idea? Would you be a fool for the sake of being different? Is that American pride or American folly?
 

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RIT333 said:
He said his gas consumption is lower - i.e. he consumes less gas, which is a good thing ! That is what "those guys use". BTW - they look just like "us", they just happpen to have a different metric for measuring automotive efficiency, and many in the World happen to think that "their way" is better.
Yeah, but their police still wear funny hats...and they have donut shops everywhere...and they put cinnamon in everything. They may look like us, but... ;D

Seriously, it all comes down to semantics. The US is used to "Distance/Fuel used" ratios and Canada uses "Fuel used/Distance" ratios. We (US folks) are used to higher number = better since that means more distance for the same amount of gas. Canadian folks (and any other country on the Metric standard) sees this as less fuel used for the same amount of distance, so a lower number = better.

You can toggle between the English and Metric setting on the DIC to see the equivalents. Or you can use this handy web site:

http://www.calculateme.com/cGasMileage/LitersPer100kmtoMPG.htm
 

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RAW2u said:
http://www.terrainforum.net/index.php?topic=2137.0

Well the CAI

HERE is a slide show of pictures below

has been installed now since Feb 11, 2011 and we have now put several tanks of fuel in to say it does have a modest change on fuel economy.
A drop from a average of 14-15l /100km we are now down to 11.2 is the average.
8600km on the Terrain with Royal Purple 2 oil changes so far the next will be at 10,000.
When i get time I will scan and see what the readings are now after the change to the CAI.

But my MRS is very happy now she wants the DUAL exhaust out.Which I have my exhaust show already with a parts list once we get some spare $$

For those who have asked me does this make a audio-able change yes it does, now the 2.4L has a growl to it ;)

Had a blast last weekend.Had another Terrain 2.4L pull up to us at a light.And the race was on. Next night he asked what the heck have we done!! So we ended up having a coffee and he was off to order one.

CHEERS :p
It looks great! I am really thinking of getting this with summer coming up soon. The installation looks fairly simple and it seems K&N did a great job matching up to our air box.

Just curious, did the kit come with oil for the air filter or do you have to order that separate? No big deal, but that is one of those check-mark items when you are putting everything together.
 

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Thanks.
Yes the filter comes pre oiled, you will just need cleaner and oil for your next air filter cleaning!!

Yes the kit installed easy we did it in our shop in less that 10 minutes with 2 of us. ;)
 

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Hey..we don't mind overlooking some of your foolishness...so hows about not worrying about what you consider our silly follies.
Yep...I'm pretty proud of how we do many things here..and kinda like the uniqueness of some of them. Yep Yep ..pretty proud here to be an American. Don't neccessarily want to be Frenchlike...Englished...or Canadianized for that matter....or develope a pompous attitude that everyone should do it our better/best way either. Just sayin...
So..some of your lingo won't and doesn't compute with many on some of these Canadian flavored posts. Rather than lecture us...why not just realize and accept that.
 

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I don't think he was lecturing...rather...just quoting from the included link...

eh?
 

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I don't think he was lecturing...rather...just posting from the included link...

eh?
100%
Enough smearing rather back to the topic. ;)
We are loyal on both sides :eek:
 

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RAW2u said:
100%
Enough smearing rather back to the topic. ;)
We are loyal on both sides :eek:
No doubt!! The Stanley Cup playoffs start in a couple weeks for the second half of hockey season! ...can't we all just get along?!
 

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jstpsntym said:
No doubt!! The Stanley Cup playoffs start in a couple weeks for the second half of hockey season! ...can't we all just get along?!
;) GO CANUCKS ;)

That is Vancouver Canucks :p

Going to be watching some games in the back yard theater :p :p
 

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;) GO CANUCKS ;)

That is Vancouver Canucks :p

Going to be watching some games in the back yard theater :p :p
So...the Canucks may currently have the best record...but the last 2 (or is it 3) years the Presidents Cup winner lost in the first or second round...

Be careful what you wish for...eh?
 

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RIT333 said:
He said his gas consumption is lower - i.e. he consumes less gas, which is a good thing ! That is what "those guys use". BTW - they look just like "us", they just happpen to have a different metric for measuring automotive efficiency, and many in the World happen to think that "their way" is better.
Thanks for the culture lesson, but you have to admit his post was a little hard to follow and I was just trying to clarify..
 

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Thanks for the culture lesson, but you have to admit his post was a little hard to follow and I was just trying to clarify..
I agree
That is why I posted about the fuel economy getting better with the CAI, with reference to metric fuel ratings and someone did not know of or like the metric numbers.As I live in Canada I was only posting the mileage on our metric system.
 

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As my mother would have said at a time like this, "Nice weather today ?"
 

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RAW2u said:
I agree
That is why I posted about the fuel economy getting better with the CAI, with reference to metric fuel ratings and someone did not know of or like the metric numbers.As I live in Canada I was only posting the mileage on our metric system.
Thanks for clarifying that, to my American eyes it looked like your gas mileage had actually gone down...but I was going to chalk that up to more spirited driving with the new intake. ;)
 

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Looking good! Thanks for the update! Will probably get one at some point to get some more punch out of the 2.4L off the line and changing gears. Hope it helps in that respect.

Here's a link to purchase:

http://clutchflywheel.com/kn_/kn_intake_kit_77_series_high_performance_air_intake/773071ks/i-407549.aspx?googlebase=77-3071KS-03

Installation instructions:

http://www.knfilters.com/instructions/77-3071_inst.pdf

And dyno:

http://www.knfilters.com/dynocharts/77-3071_dyno.pdf
 
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