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I bought my 2011 Terrain SLE-2 :mad: (3.0 litre V6 AWD) a couple of weeks ago. I'm trying to be positive but there are things about it (that I didn't realize when I test drove it) that drive me bonkers and cause me to have major buyer's remorse. Anyone else relate?

1. Blind spots. HORRIBLE! Try shoulder-checking to the left and it's almost futile. I had an Escape prior to this and shoulder-checking was a breeze. Shoulder-checking to the right wasn't great but better now that I keep the back passenger seat down forward (it seemed the head-rest for that seat would really block a lot). I've tried adjusting my power seats a million ways but it's the big-a$$ pillar that's between the driver's door window and driver's side back seat that blocks so much. Yes yes, I use my side-mirror, of course but a side-mirror doesn't show everything which is why you need to shoulder-check, too. Sadly I got into my first accident in 27 yrs a week after I bought it, changing lanes, because of this issue.

2. When driving, the inside feels like that of a mini-van. The huge dash is unappealing. I love the exterior and the boxy lines...but the inside doesn't feel sporty at all.

3. Not crazy about the red instrumentation lights. Whoa. Too much red. Thought I'd just get used to it but it's just too much.

4. Premium sound system is kind of a joke when listening to AM/FM or XM (though not bad with CD player). The sound quality for radio is really crappy and it only seems to come out of the very front speakers. Very cheap sounding.

5. THE REMOTE STARTER SUCKS!! You gotta remember to press the 'lock' button on fob first, then the start button...and you gotta hold the start button for a few seconds. With my Escape you just hit the start button and it automatically locked the vehicle first. But if that's not enough, the maximum amount of time it will stay running is 10 minutes. WTH? I live in a part of the country where it can get down to -45C in the winter and a piddly 10 minutes of running is a joke; surely not enough to heat up vehicle, help unfrost windows, etc. Oh sure, you can "add" another 10 minutes onto that amount of time......but that's kind of a gimmick, too because in order to REALLY add another 10 minutes (eg: to make it 20 minutes), you'd have to wait until the first 10 minutes was almost up then hit the lock/then start button. I work in a huge office building that can take me 15 minutes to walk through to get to a window to remote start my vehicle. I don't have time to stand there for 10 minutes twiddling my thumbs, waiting to add another 10 minutes. This is a real pain in the arse. AND....I have my settings such that the driver seat's heat will switch on when remote started....but it has yet to work. **The manual says that in cold weather you can program it to do this. Is it not working simply because the vehicle doesn't sense that it's "cold enough" outside?

ADD: the key fob doesn't seem to have much range. Seems to me like you have to be a lot closer to the vehicle to get it to work than with other vehicles/remote starts. And when I'm in a large parking lot and want to use my 'panic button' to more easily find where my vehicle is, either the sound is too quiet.....or it just doesn't work unless i'm a lot closer to the vehicle.

6. Cargo room is substantially smaller than my Escape (and an Escape is a smaller SUV). I guess the way to get around this is to move the backseats as far forward as they'll go?

7. Fuel economy sucks the big one. So far, 25 mpg on highway. A far cry from the praises sung by the saleman. At $70 to fill the tank, I'm going to need to get a second job, sheesh.

8. Door locks on the dash is stupid. Why put them there?

9. Gas tank on the RIGHT. I didn't realize what a nuisance this would be but it is one, for sure. I wonder what the thinking was behind putting it there?

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10. No concealed holder for garage door opener. Even my cheap little Escape had a little concealed holder for the opener so that all you had to do was press a certain spot on the outside of that littler compartment to open the door.

11. The 12 Volt plug-in thingies don't work when the vehicle is turned off. In my old (2001) Escape, I could easily charge my cell overnight (no impact to vehicle battery) but just leaving it plugged into the charger.

IF ANYONE has any solutions or tips or suggestions to deal with any of the above, I'd be very grateful. As it is now, if I could turn back time I would have bought a Nissan X-Terra instead.
 

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Here are some solutions :

1. Adjust your side view mirrors "out" further. A search on this forum addresses this mirror setup. Some like it, others don't. If it would save you an accident, you may like it !

4. Have you tried adjusting the front/rear balance ?

5. The seats will heat up when it gets colder outside - providing you have programmed it to do that. My remotes seem to have a VERY GOOD range. Maybe your battery is weak - ask the dealer, or replace the battery.

7. I doubt you'll get 25 mpg withthe X-Terra.

9. I, also, don't like the filler on the passenger side - no solution there. I always thought it was safer to put it on the other side, because it was less likely to be involved in an accident on the driver's side. ???

11. The rear 12v outlet is always hot - not handy, but you could run an "extension cord".

Sorry that your test drive didn't uncover these "faults".
 

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Personally, I love the gas filler on the passenger side. I never have to worry about hitting my door on the tank guards.

Do adjust your mirrors or get those blind spot mirrors. If you have them set up properly you will not need to shoulder check. Remember @ 70 MPH you travel around 105 feet a second. That is a VERY long distance to have your eyes off the road. Seriously, its a NEW vehicle that you have to get used to.

8. Locks are in the center for break in purposes. Much harder to unlock the vehicle when them there. You get used to it.

For the remote start issue, just dont warm it up for so long. The vehicle warms up MUCH faster driving down the road, while maintaining an appropriate RPM, than idling at 700 RPM in your driveway.



Still, these are "major" faults that you overlooked to purchase the vehicle. The only one I cant see you really noticing is the remote starter. That you might want to have looked at while at the dealer next.

Also, your MPG will increase as the vehicle breaks in. Most members have noticed this and you should too.
 

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Alberta_Girl said:
I bought my 2011 Terrain SLE-2 :mad: (3.0 litre V6 AWD) a couple of weeks ago. I'm trying to be positive but there are things about it (that I didn't realize when I test drove it) that drive me bonkers and cause me to have major buyer's remorse. Anyone else relate?

1. Blind spots. HORRIBLE! Try shoulder-checking to the left and it's almost futile. I had an Escape prior to this and shoulder-checking was a breeze. Shoulder-checking to the right wasn't great but better now that I keep the back passenger seat down forward (it seemed the head-rest for that seat would really block a lot). I've tried adjusting my power seats a million ways but it's the big-a$$ pillar that's between the driver's door window and driver's side back seat that blocks so much. Yes yes, I use my side-mirror, of course but a side-mirror doesn't show everything which is why you need to shoulder-check, too. Sadly I got into my first accident in 27 yrs a week after I bought it, changing lanes, because of this issue.

2. When driving, the inside feels like that of a mini-van. The huge dash is unappealing. I love the exterior and the boxy lines...but the inside doesn't feel sporty at all.

3. Not crazy about the red instrumentation lights. Whoa. Too much red. Thought I'd just get used to it but it's just too much.

4. Premium sound system is kind of a joke when listening to AM/FM or XM (though not bad with CD player). The sound quality for radio is really crappy and it only seems to come out of the very front speakers. Very cheap sounding.

5. THE REMOTE STARTER SUCKS!! You gotta remember to press the 'lock' button on fob first, then the start button...and you gotta hold the start button for a few seconds. With my Escape you just hit the start button and it automatically locked the vehicle first. But if that's not enough, the maximum amount of time it will stay running is 10 minutes. WTH? I live in a part of the country where it can get down to -45C in the winter and a piddly 10 minutes of running is a joke; surely not enough to heat up vehicle, help unfrost windows, etc. Oh sure, you can "add" another 10 minutes onto that amount of time......but that's kind of a gimmick, too because in order to REALLY add another 10 minutes (eg: to make it 20 minutes), you'd have to wait until the first 10 minutes was almost up then hit the lock/then start button. I work in a huge office building that can take me 15 minutes to walk through to get to a window to remote start my vehicle. I don't have time to stand there for 10 minutes twiddling my thumbs, waiting to add another 10 minutes. This is a real pain in the arse. AND....I have my settings such that the driver seat's heat will switch on when remote started....but it has yet to work. **The manual says that in cold weather you can program it to do this. Is it not working simply because the vehicle doesn't sense that it's "cold enough" outside?

ADD: the key fob doesn't seem to have much range. Seems to me like you have to be a lot closer to the vehicle to get it to work than with other vehicles/remote starts. And when I'm in a large parking lot and want to use my 'panic button' to more easily find where my vehicle is, either the sound is too quiet.....or it just doesn't work unless i'm a lot closer to the vehicle.

6. Cargo room is substantially smaller than my Escape (and an Escape is a smaller SUV). I guess the way to get around this is to move the backseats as far forward as they'll go?

7. Fuel economy sucks the big one. So far, 25 mpg on highway. A far cry from the praises sung by the saleman. At $70 to fill the tank, I'm going to need to get a second job, sheesh.

8. Door locks on the dash is stupid. Why put them there?

9. Gas tank on the RIGHT. I didn't realize what a nuisance this would be but it is one, for sure. I wonder what the thinking was behind putting it there?

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10. No concealed holder for garage door opener. Even my cheap little Escape had a little concealed holder for the opener so that all you had to do was press a certain spot on the outside of that littler compartment to open the door.

11. The 12 Volt plug-in thingies don't work when the vehicle is turned off. In my old (2001) Escape, I could easily charge my cell overnight (no impact to vehicle battery) but just leaving it plugged into the charger.

IF ANYONE has any solutions or tips or suggestions to deal with any of the above, I'd be very grateful. As it is now, if I could turn back time I would have bought a Nissan X-Terra instead.
It's all about trade offs Alberta_Girl. There are pros and cons to almost everything. Anybody can find some fault with everything. I tend to concentrate on the positives and cope with the negatives. For me, I'm so happy with the positives that the negatives are basically insignificant. So much pleasure to be gained from that new car smell, the handsome exterior, and don't forget the excellence in engineering.

For me the Terrain can be described as poetry in motion. The glass is half full, and I tend to concentrate on the positive. I try to embellish what we have. We made an investment, now it's time for pride in ownership. Nicest vehicle I ever owned. I look forward to many years of enjoyment and driving pleasure.
 

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Here are some solutions :

1. Adjust your side view mirrors "out" further. A search on this forum addresses this mirror setup. Some like it, others don't. If it would save you an accident, you may like it !

4. Have you tried adjusting the front/rear balance ?

5. The seats will heat up when it gets colder outside - providing you have programmed it to do that. My remotes seem to have a VERY GOOD range. Maybe your battery is weak - ask the dealer, or replace the battery.

7. I doubt you'll get 25 mpg withthe X-Terra.

9. I, also, don't like the filler on the passenger side - no solution there. I always thought it was safer to put it on the other side, because it was less likely to be involved in an accident on the driver's side. ???

11. The rear 12v outlet is always hot - not handy, but you could run an "extension cord".

Sorry that your test drive didn't uncover these "faults".

I guess a lot of these aren't really faults, per se, just things that are different than I'm used to.

I should have requested a test drive by myself instead of having an annoying salesman tagging along with me. That's my fault, I guess.

I have adjusted the sideview mirror on the driver's side. I guess I have to sort of test it out to see how much it really shows me. I know that some people, depending on the vehicle, have to totally rely on their mirrors......I guess I just have to adjust to this (as compared to always being able to shouldercheck so easily). Considering the minor accident I had when changing from the right to left lane, I'm a little spooked now and I'll admit it's kind of dampened my pleasure in driving because now I'm paranoid it'll happen again.

When you say the rear 12V plug in is always hot -- do you mean the one in the cargo area? (isn't there one there?) If you mean the one in the back seat area, mine in that area doesn't work when the vehicle is turned off. I found this out when I had one of those handy tire inflators that you plug into a 12V thingy (one of my tires was a little low) and I couldn't figure out why the front and backseat things didn't work.

I've heard some dealerships let you test-drive a vehicle overnight. This is my first "new" vehicle since 89. Next time I buy one, I'm going to request to take it overnight so I can really get a sense for it. 2 - 20 minute drives with a yapping salesman sitting in the passenger seat obviously wasn't conducive to really making a good decision.

To the other person who responded about the position of the door locks......huh, that makes sense (decreases risk of break-in), never knew that.

On a positive note, I do find the driver's sit very comfortable, the ride is very smooth, I appreciate the heated seats, I'm thankful to have On-Star...and there are a lot of other neat little features that my Escape didn't have.
 

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Alberta_Girl said:
When you say the rear 12V plug in is always hot -- do you mean the one in the cargo area? (isn't there one there?) If you mean the one in the back seat area, mine in that area doesn't work when the vehicle is turned off. I found this out when I had one of those handy tire inflators that you plug into a 12V thingy (one of my tires was a little low) and I couldn't figure out why the front and backseat things didn't work.
Only the one in the cargo area, Hence the need for a long extension cord.
 

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Another reason for the front plugs to be off, at least I was told by an electrical engineer, is that people are getting their smart phones and chargers fried by the sudden jolt of power at start up. The plugs go on, off and back on again and its killing them. Lots of new cars are having them powered off at start up now.
 

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If you have a iPhone or a Android phone just install the Onstar Mylink Mobil App, it's good for both starting your car and unlocking the doors and you will have unlimited range as long as your Terrain's Onstar has a signal. And as a added plus you can ditch your keyfob and make you keys lighter.
 

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And as a added plus you can ditch your keyfob and make you keys lighter.
Won't you still need a "key" to put into the ignition ? Can you purchase a blade-type key without the fob.
 

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Only the one in the cargo area, Hence the need for a long extension cord.
the one in the cargo area, you know, just below where the guy wants to put his gallon jug of washer fluid
 

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Wow...good job others on responding on individual complaints but looks like Alberta didn't do enough research.
Most of those things should have been clear by looking at the car at the dealer and test driving it....
Sorry it doesn't suit you, it's a great car, but obviously not great car for everyone.
Need to do little more research before making such an expensive purchase.
Also if you Escape was so perfect why didn't you just get another one?
 

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RIT333 said:
Won't you still need a "key" to put into the ignition ? Can you purchase a blade-type key without the fob.
You still need the key to put into ignition but take note that OnStar Mylink Mobile App doesn't work with 2010 model...that's only good for 2011 model.
The big question is if the OnStar can unlock your 2010 model vehicle through their system then why they cannot make it on that mobile application instead of 2011 only?
 

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You still need the key to put into ignition but take note that OnStar Mylink Mobile App doesn't work with 2010 model...that's only good for 2011 model.
The big question is if the OnStar can unlock your 2010 model vehicle through their system then why they cannot make it on that mobile application instead of 2011 only?
It is coming to 2010 models, but not till 2011. They probably need to test the software to make sure everything works as advertised. This was designed for 2011 models, but a lot of 2010 models should work just as well.
 

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It is coming to 2010 models, but not till 2011. They probably need to test the software to make sure everything works as advertised. This was designed for 2011 models, but a lot of 2010 models should work just as well.
No...it doesn't work in 2010 model because I have try it 2 weeks ago and today also.
 

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Wow...good job others on responding on individual complaints but looks like Alberta didn't do enough research.
Most of those things should have been clear by looking at the car at the dealer and test driving it....
Sorry it doesn't suit you, it's a great car, but obviously not great car for everyone.
Need to do little more research before making such an expensive purchase.
Also if you Escape was so perfect why didn't you just get another one?
I'm not sure why you feel the need to be so condescending? ...or why you feel the need to defend this vehicle so much? Everyone's tastes and preferences are different and maybe there is someone out there reading these forums who is considering the Terrain and will appreciate knowing, first hand, some of the things that annoy others. That's super that you love the Terrain, but I am not you and frankly I can't understand why anyone would have objections to someone sharing their negative and personal experiences with something. There isn't a right or wrong here.

Going on (2) 20 minute test drives with some old yappy car salesman sitting beside me filling the air with bullshit (well, that's of course after he admitted to me that he really knew very little about the vehicle because he'd previously worked at the local Ford dealership for years and had only been here at the GMC dealership for 2 weeks so "still had a lot to learn") doesn't exacly afford one the ability to really learn about the vehicle to the extent that one should. Some things you just don't realize until you are actually putting them to use.

1. I had no idea about the remote starter's limitations because it wasn't a chilly morning where I was on my way to work and had started it only to find the vehicle stopped running after 10 minutes. I never dreamed there was this silly "10 minute time limit" -- my Escape didn't have that (20 minutes) and nobody's vehicle I know has such a silly time limit. Nor did I need to use the panic button in the dealership parking lot, obviously, only to find that you have to be rather close for it to work.

2. I obviously wouldn't have known that the 12V outlets didn't work when the vehicle not running; do you honestly think this is something that someone going for a test drive is going to THINK to check out? Come on.

3. The cargo room looked less but I didn't get the full sense of it until going grocery shopping last week, getting my usual amount of groceries and realizing there was a lot less space.

4. Like I said, I thought I would just need time to get "used to" the red instrumentation lights, as with any change that people need to adjust to. As it turns out, however, after 2.5 weeks, I'm not diggin' them. I was supposed to determine this from a test drive?

5. Having never had a vehicle with the gas tank on the right/passenger side, I didn't realize how much of a pain in the ass it was going to be when trying to pull into any gas station where I live. Many of them are designed for the flow of traffic going one direction and it's difficult to have to be driving in the opposite way, particularly when there's a line up.

6. The crappy sound quality when listening only to the radio (AM/FM/XM) is something I noticed when I test drove, to an extent, but it's difficult to blast the stereo when you have a yappy salesman sitting there beside you, talking non-stop. Also, I assumed that one would merely have to play around with the configuration of the settings; that obviously the settings were set to the manufacturer's defaults and that I'd need to tweak them. Well, as it turns out, tweaking doesn't do very much.

7. The significant degree of the blind-spot issue is not something I could have known from just test driving it. Driving around town does not in any way simulate driving in very heavy, very crazy early morning or late afternoon rush-hour traffic where average speeds are 110 km/h (65 m/hour) and people are cutting in and out of lanes and you're having to change lanes, too. It doesn't help that I've been driving for 27 years, have thankfully never had an accident in all of those years, never had an insurance claim.......yet a week after I get this vehicle, I am changing lanes; I signal, check sideview mirror as always, shoulder check to my left....then proceed to move into left lane and I make contact with another vehicle. My 27 yr driving history should support the fact that I'm a very conscientious and safe driver......but one week in this vehicle and I sideswipe someone I didn't obviously see was there. Now quite frankly, I'm nervous driving and terrified that's going to happen again. I've never been a nervous driver and until last week, always found driving to be a great pleasure. Now unfortunately I've lost some confidence and I'm nervous about changing lanes (from right to left). Yes, I've adjusted my mirrors and I hope that's helped but I'm still not 100% confident. It's a real p*sser to have gotten into an accident, after having never been in one EVER, a mere week after parting with over $38,000 (now my insurance goes up a lot).

8. The fuel economy is SURELY not something one is going to determine from a mere test drive, surely you would know that? The salesman went on and on and on about what great fuel economy it would get, and even when I was trying to decide between the 4 cylinder or the V6 and told him it would seem logical that the 4 cylinder would get better fuel economy....he went on and on with some story about how the bigger engine WOULD get the best. I didn't necessarily buy it but I still have the Build Sheet that was attached to the window of the vehicle....my model....3.0L, V6, AWD...and how it claimed I would get 35 mpg on the highway and I'm lucky if I'm getting 25...(and 2/3 of my commute each day is on the highway)...which is an outright misrepresentation.

And YES, my Escape did have some good points....things I would simply EXPECT a vehicle to have; no major issues with blind spots, a decent remote starter set-up that lets me actually warm my interior up properly (and help clear my windshield) when -45C weather strikes as opposed to a petty 10 minute "tease". Maybe you live where the weather is nice in the winter but here, it gets very brutal and when you've worked a 10 hr day and have to walk 20 minutes to get to your car in the open parking lot and you don't want to sit there inside it freezing your arse off while you wait for your windows to defrost and clear some and the interior to not be so frigid that you can see your breath -- because you have a 40 minute drive home on treacherous highways........well I expect a remote starter to be a benefit, not a joke. I had an after market remote starter put into my Escape and that thing was gold. I was able to program it the day I bought it, so that the time the vehicle would run was extended from the default of 10 minutes to 20 minutes, no problem. With this one, forget it. You can only add 10 minutes onto the time if you go back (and are in close enough range) and do the 'lock/start' process again.....but if you do that when, say, the vehicle has only been running for 2 minutes, your additional 10 minutes gives you a whopping 12 minutes in total (as opposed to adding ANOTHER 10 onto the original 10 to give 20). Where I work, it takes me 15 minutes to walk to a location in our storey office building where I can visualize the parking lot I'm in to start my vehicle (and ensure, in the bitter cold, that I see it start by way of the headlights coming on). So now I will have to stand there for 10 minutes like a tool, just so that I can add another 10 minutes? With my Escape, start it, walk away, it runs for 20 minutes, easy peasy. Not all this hassle.

My Escape also DID have a lot more cargo room, which is impressive considering it's a small vehicle.

The only reason I didn't get an Escape again is because I know of 2 people (my Dad being one of them) who have 2010 Escapes and nothing but transmission troubles and more time spent in the shop than on the road. I felt the Escape to be rather "tinny" feeling, like driving a tin can in some respects. It seems I've always owned Fords and I decided I wanted to expand my horizon. The Terrain had a nice unique "look" and it did feel solid when driving it, and I liked that. I'm not saying my Escape was the end all, be all, but it's merely a fact that the biggest issues I have (blind-spot, remote starter, cargo room, etc), I simply did NOT have with my Escape. It's only natural when you get something new and you find there are things you didn't expect or don't like, you're going to compare them (whether consciously or subconsciously) to your most recent point of reference.
 

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Hey Alberta_Girl. I can understand some of those issues. It was a big adjustment for me too. Especially coming from Ford Explorer's and GMC Sierra's. But 25-27 mpg is not bad for a car weighing 4,000 lbs. Especially with AWD. The first night with my Terrain and the light literally hurt my eyes. But I've grown to love it. And I've noticed in other cars now that their dash lights don't look as bright or defined. It will take some time but I really think you'll love it once it breaks in. But I don't think even the 4 cyl gets 35 mpg. You may want to talk to your dealer about your build sheet if it says that. But just give it time. I had a short test drive too. But I read an encyclopedia's worth of reviews before I made my purchase. And compared those to when I actually drove the car. But you'll come to realize that members of this forum really love the Terrain/Nox. So it does sting a little to hear a bashing like that. But I think I speak for everyone when I say it's not personal.
 

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You are getting harsh responses from some (like me) because instead of complaing about a valid problem (my new Terrain is acting up, dealer won't fix, what to do!"), majority of your complaints are about things you could have found out before purchasing. For exampple the 10 minute limit is right in the manual AS WELL AS the quick start guide.

Also, please see how you are responding to others. For example,

2. I obviously wouldn't have known that the 12V outlets didn't work when the vehicle not running; do you honestly think this is something that someone going for a test drive is going to THINK to check out? Come on.
Come on? Yeah, very nice. Do I think someone will check out? I did. If I'm changing to different manufacture, or much newer year, of course I will check that and I knew only cargo one would be always on. On my 2004 impala both of sockets are on at all times and I hated it so it was a welcome change for me.

I knew so much about the car by the time I put my signature that it surpassed knowledge of all 3 sales people I worked with at 3 different dealers combined - even though 2 of them were pretty good comparing to other sales guy I've dealt with who knew nothing about the car they are showing. (Toyota dealers in this area seem to be nutritious on this)

Again the harsh response is because you seem to be whining about little things that you COULD HAVE found out, but did not bother to.
Also if you hate the red lights so much, there is this little dial on left side of steering wheel (In the manual as well but I'm sure you haven't read it) that you can turn and adjust brightness.

edit: and I just care to read that you had an after market remote start installed on Escape, it wasn't factory. Again, if this was such an important feature why didn't you research it? It's right in the manual and quick start guide. Go get an after market one installed on your terrain as well (some places are starting to say they can do it) and be done with it. Are you going to say "It came with it so it should work like I want it." No, the car was not designed Alberta Girl in -45C weather in mind, it was designed to appeal to much larger public. I'm sure the 10 minuted limit has something to do with safety regulations as well.
 

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Yes, sell it and buy the xterra.
Nothing that we say will make you love it again, sorry you just broke up with your new ride.. Time for a new one!

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IF ANYONE has any solutions or tips or suggestions to deal with any of the above, I'd be very grateful. As it is now, if I could turn back time I would have bought a Nissan X-Terra instead.
 

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HI ALBERTA-the Oracle can predict your future. Welcome to the forum. Do any of your friends have a Terrain?
 

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Alberta_girl You really don't need to justify your opinion on the Terrain to anyone here or anywhere else. It's your opinion and you certainly have a right to it. I've owned 12-15 new cars in my lifetime and the Terrain is perhaps my favorite, however, that doesn't mean my opinion is any more valid than yours. As to the suggestion you should have read the owners manual BEFORE you bought the vehicle, I say to georgi55--give me a fricken break!
Perhaps a few months with the terrain will change your mind or at least allow you to see beyond the "limitations" you feel at this time. If not you eventually have 2 options--trade it or simply drive it and put up with those items you don't like. Regardless, best of luck and take the criticism of some members on this forum with a grain of salt! Ron
 
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