You will have to help me on this one. How can an oil filter (good or bad) cause the selective failure of pistons or bearings. Oil filters are generally, if not always, a parallel oil path. Only a portion of the oil goes through the filter on each pass and if the filter were completely plugged the engine would still get oil. The same goes for high RPM or cold engine oiling issues. As far as engine failures of any sort caused by defective oil filters, I believe you would find it hard to identify any, let alone a chronic, problem. If Fram did have a chronic problem, the courts would be loaded with lawsuits and litigation. Again, I am not aware of this going on anyplace. There are some lubrication products that I personally don’t care for. However, the reality is that failures of any kind in a modern engine due to oil or oil filter problems almost doesn’t exist. Modern oils and engines are really quite amazing.bballr4567 said:During high RPM driving the Fram filters have a history of collapsing and starving #2 and 3 pistons of oil and causing spun bearings. People take out the engines, pull the filter and its completely collapsed on its self. They are just POS crap. In the full canister filters, the end caps are CARDBOARD not metal. That is a HUGE problem in engines that have a higher RPM as it just cant withstand the high pressures of the oil.
For $2 more you can get a QUALITY filter. Totally worth it IMHO.
It has to do with the way that GM created the oil paths on the Ecotec. I dont know why but Fram filters collapse and then the motor is done for.rcturner said:You will have to help me on this one. How can an oil filter (good or bad) cause the selective failure of pistons or bearings. Oil filters are generally, if not always, a parallel oil path. Only a portion of the oil goes through the filter on each pass and if the filter were completely plugged the engine would still get oil. The same goes for high RPM or cold engine oiling issues. As far as engine failures of any sort caused by defective oil filters, I believe you would find it hard to identify any, let alone a chronic, problem. If Fram did have a chronic problem, the courts would be loaded with lawsuits and litigation. Again, I am not aware of this going on anyplace. There are some lubrication products that I personally don’t care for. However, the reality is that failures of any kind in a modern engine due to oil or oil filter problems almost doesn’t exist. Modern oils and engines are really quite amazing.
For the same price I can get a better designed filter, which filters lower, and has a better designed ADBV (anti-drainback valve) setup. I run filters by dana corp (wix, napa gold), good price and great overall filters. I cannot see paying 10.00 for a similar quality filter (mobil 1, k&n)...But this is why people hate fram, for the price it should be a nicely designed filter, but it is not. This is why alot of people do not like fram, look at any site that has opened the filters up, they all say the same....Cheap.rcturner said:I am not sure where the information comes from that there is any problem of any kind with the Fram oil filters. I know it has been popular to say that they are not good filters but, I have never seen anything that actually details any kind of a failure or problem. I believe that you can buy filters that filter finer particles from the oil but, I am not sure that the filtering quality of the Fram filter could be considered substandard in any way. I have used them in business (sold hundreds in my auto parts store) and for my own cars, trucks, boats and motorcycles for many, many years. Never a problem of any kind.