As Alex Trebeck might say, "Can you make your statement in the form of a question".SSEquinox said:Hello guys
looking for some better throttle response on my 2010 nox, and maybe some added power. its a tad slow
thanks
Trifecta TuneSSEquinox said:Hello guys
looking for some better throttle response on my 2010 nox, and maybe some added power. its a tad slow
thanks
Magnuson–Moss act.....unless the dealer can prove the air filter was the direct cause of the issue at hand, they cannot deny warranty work.RNOX said:I'd be careful with some engine upgrades. Could void your warranty. A llot of people are finding that out with K&N air filters
do you have it? i really have to question it....i know some engines arent tuned good from the factory, but a G8 (with the 3.6 which the nox sport has) only gains 4hp which cost $300 bucks....2010BlkGraniteNox said:Trifecta Tune
http://www.trifectaperformance.com/
Its a night and day difference over the stock tune.
12whp/9wtrq peaksgar187er said:do you have it? i really have to question it....i know some engines arent tuned good from the factory, but a G8 (with the 3.6 which the nox sport has) only gains 4hp which cost $300 bucks....
$75 per hp gain.....be better off opening up the exhaust...
This is talking about air intake kits more than drop-in filters. I dont like K&N because they allow more dirt in, but they do not void warranty. Even your TSB states this.RNOX said:I have quoted the act before on this forum but you don't realize how many people come into the dealer with them installed. GM even has TSB's on this.
"Info - Automatic Transmission Shift, Engine Driveability Concerns or Service Engine Soon (SES) Light On as a Result of the Use of an Excessively/Over-Oiled Aftermarket, Reusable Air Filter #04-07-30-013A - (Jan 25, 2005)
Automatic Transmission Shift, Engine Driveability Concerns or Service Engine Soon (SES) Light On as a Result of the Use of an Excessively/ Over- Oiled Aftermarket, Reusable Air Filter
2005 and Prior GM Cars and Light Duty Trucks
2005 and Prior Saturn Models
2003-2005 HUMMER H2
This bulletin is being revised to add additional model years and to clarify warranty coverage. Please discard Corporate Bulletin Number 04-07-30-013 (Section 07 -- Transmission/Transaxle).
DO THIS
First, Inspect the vehicle for a reusable aftermarket excessivelyover- oiled air filter
DON'T DO THIS
DO NOT repair MAF sensors under warranty if concerns result from the use of an excessively/over-oiled aftermarket, reusable air filter.
The use of an excessively/over-oiled aftermarket, reusable air filter may result in:
• Service Engine Soon (SES) Light On
• Transmission shift concerns, slipping and damaged clutch(es) or band(s)
• Engine driveability concerns, poor acceleration from a stop, limited engine RPM range
The oil that is used on these air filter elements may be transferred onto the Mass Air Flow (MAF) sensor causing contamination of the sensor. As a result, the Grams per Second (GPS) signal from the MAF may be low and any or all of the concerns listed above may occur.
When servicing a vehicle with any of these concerns, be sure to check for the presence of an aftermarket reusable, excessively/over- oiled air filter. The MAF, GPS reading should be compared to a like vehicle with an OEM air box and filter under the same driving conditions to verify the concern.
The use of an aftermarket reusable air filter DOES NOT void the vehicle's warranty.
If an aftermarket reusable air filter is used, technicians should inspect the MAF sensor element and the air induction hose for contamination of oil prior to making warranty repairs.
Transmission or engine driveability concerns (related to the MAF sensor being contaminated with oil) that are the result of the use of an aftermarket reusable, excessively/over-oiled air filter are not considered to be warrantable repair items."
Exhaust equals sound....bballr4567 said:The #1 thing you will gain from is an exhaust. The tin can muffler is a pretty big restriction. The actual tubing and routing is pretty freaking nice compared to past stock exhausts. Itll sound much better as well.
Ok, and?2010BlkGraniteNox said:Exhaust equals sound....
^^ this right here....and it won't void the warranty.bballr4567 said:The #1 thing you will gain from is an exhaust. The tin can muffler is a pretty big restriction. The actual tubing and routing is pretty freaking nice compared to past stock exhausts. Itll sound much better as well.
But they see an K and N and your MAF goes bad looks like they are going to make you pay for the repair of it. I had a Kand N and took it out after I read the TSB. On other forums people had to pay for a messed up MAF if they had a K and N installed. I should have said they won't warrat the repair of the MAF.2010BlkGraniteNox said:This is talking about air intake kits more than drop-in filters. I dont like K&N because they allow more dirt in, but they do not void warranty. Even your TSB states this.
If it fails and you have a K&N inside you may have problems getting it replaced under warranty. I know it's the oil. We're getting anal herebballr4567 said:It should be noted that a K&N will NOT cause your MAF to fail. Improper oiling of the actual filter will cause it to fail.