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Anybody do any mod's to their 2010 NOX 4 banger to get more power / better autotrans performance (is it just me or is the tranny hesitant to downshift)? I've searched, and I can't find any tuners to mod the extremely gas mileage-centric programming in the ECU.

I'm thinking a K&N air-filter, but that won't do much.

This is a lease car, so it has to go back to "normal" when I turn it in.

Nitrous? (just kidding, barely).

Thanks,

MOO
 

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PS: Reduction in MPG would be acceptable for more HP / trq.
 

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No offense, but before you lease your next car, I would suggest you test drive it first. Sounds like you may be unhappy for quite a few months.
 

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Test driving wasn't an option this was the "best" car available.
 

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The Equinox/Terrain aren't considered "performance" vehicles even with the V6. Having said that, either engine is enough for the vast majority of owners.
 

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MOO said:
Anybody do any mod's to their 2010 NOX 4 banger to get more power / better autotrans performance (is it just me or is the tranny hesitant to downshift)? I've searched, and I can't find any tuners to mod the extremely gas mileage-centric programming in the ECU.

I'm thinking a K&N air-filter, but that won't do much.

This is a lease car, so it has to go back to "normal" when I turn it in.

Nitrous? (just kidding, barely).

Thanks,

MOO

Vince @ Trifecta can tune these cars for you. He is one of the most widely known tuners for the Ecotec engine. He can as well do the LF1 (V6)
 

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The Equinox/Terrain aren't considered "performance" vehicles even with the V6. Having said that, either engine is enough for the vast majority of owners.
True but some of us like to improve on things...

I would've kept my 321whp/335wtrq Cobalt SS if I didnt have a supercharged sea doo that was more fun to drive than the car. I just needed something to pull the sea doo around, but at the same time I do wish to improve on it.
 

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True but some of us like to improve on things...

I would've kept my 321whp/335wtrq Cobalt SS if I didnt have a supercharged sea doo that was more fun to drive than the car. I just needed something to pull the sea doo around, but at the same time I do wish to improve on it.
Sure, I understand that..even the 4cyl is capable of pulling that Seadoo, but you're never going to get the same kind of torque as a V8 or powerful V6. It just sounded like the OP was expecting Porsche Cayenne performance out of a vehicle that was designed for comfort, utility and excellent gas mileage for a SUV.
 

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I hoping to get back to or close to 2007 4.0L 4x4 V-6 Ford Explorer performance (not exactly a hot rod).

It just seems the auto-tranny has been tuned for gas mileage factor and not "fun-to-drive" factor.

Maybe the aftermarket will step up with a hand-held tuner option....
 

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How long is your lease for? However long it is, though, is a long time to drive something you are already referring to as a 'dog'. At least the mileage should be worlds better than your exploder.

Hope you can find some decent hop-up parts...
 

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Sure, I understand that..even the 4cyl is capable of pulling that Seadoo, but you're never going to get the same kind of torque as a V8 or powerful V6. It just sounded like the OP was expecting Porsche Cayenne performance out of a vehicle that was designed for comfort, utility and excellent gas mileage for a SUV.

Trailering weight is figured w/ driver only....So I cannot carry any passengers or gear and "legally" tow. .. I could easily put in 3 other adults with gear and go beyond the 1500lb rating (Sea Doo is 800lbs trailer is 200lbs roughly when I'm pulling solo, alot of weekends I pull double trailer w/ Sea Doo and heavy ass Honda (almost 1k lbs). Many people do this all the time, it can be done yes, but why not get the higher rated V6 anyways?

Btw..this "under powered" V6 puts out more HP per Liter than 95% of GM's engines, including all the V6's GM has in its lineup, I4's (excluding the LNF which isnt made anymore after mid 2010) and most V8's. Torque is lower obviously, but can be brought down to lower levels. The Holden version of the LF1 puts out max torque @ 2900 rpms, what people do not realize is the torque curve on alot of these new engines is flat.

88HP per liter is pretty very good, better than the "best" 3.6 which comes in @ 84 (304hp model) Would I like the 3.6, yes because it has more torque down low, but the 3.0 in a smaller car is plenty for the market it is in, and even responds well to modifications like timing adjustments :)

When the 4200 came out nobody liked it either....Not people wish that engine was back, its always the same :)
 

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Trailering weight is figured w/ driver only....So I cannot carry any passengers or gear and "legally" tow. .. I could easily put in 3 other adults with gear and go beyond the 1500lb rating (Sea Doo is 800lbs trailer is 200lbs roughly when I'm pulling solo, alot of weekends I pull double trailer w/ Sea Doo and heavy ass Honda (almost 1k lbs). Many people do this all the time, it can be done yes, but why not get the higher rated V6 anyways?

Btw..this "under powered" V6 puts out more HP per Liter than 95% of GM's engines, including all the V6's GM has in its lineup, I4's (excluding the LNF which isnt made anymore after mid 2010) and most V8's. Torque is lower obviously, but can be brought down to lower levels. The Holden version of the LF1 puts out max torque @ 2900 rpms, what people do not realize is the torque curve on alot of these new engines is flat.

88HP per liter is pretty very good, better than the "best" 3.6 which comes in @ 84 (304hp model) Would I like the 3.6, yes because it has more torque down low, but the 3.0 in a smaller car is plenty for the market it is in, and even responds well to modifications like timing adjustments :)

When the 4200 came out nobody liked it either....Not people wish that engine was back, its always the same :)
Do you think it is possible to "import" the ecm settings of the Holden one to modify ours ?
 

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Trailering weight is figured w/ driver only....So I cannot carry any passengers or gear and "legally" tow. .. I could easily put in 3 other adults with gear and go beyond the 1500lb rating (Sea Doo is 800lbs trailer is 200lbs roughly when I'm pulling solo, alot of weekends I pull double trailer w/ Sea Doo and heavy ass Honda (almost 1k lbs). Many people do this all the time, it can be done yes, but why not get the higher rated V6 anyways?

Btw..this "under powered" V6 puts out more HP per Liter than 95% of GM's engines, including all the V6's GM has in its lineup, I4's (excluding the LNF which isnt made anymore after mid 2010) and most V8's. Torque is lower obviously, but can be brought down to lower levels. The Holden version of the LF1 puts out max torque @ 2900 rpms, what people do not realize is the torque curve on alot of these new engines is flat.

88HP per liter is pretty very good, better than the "best" 3.6 which comes in @ 84 (304hp model) Would I like the 3.6, yes because it has more torque down low, but the 3.0 in a smaller car is plenty for the market it is in, and even responds well to modifications like timing adjustments :)

When the 4200 came out nobody liked it either....Not people wish that engine was back, its always the same :)
I was small SUV shopping with a V6 in mind, not because I have anything to tow, but because I thought a 4CYL in this type of vehicle would be too underpowered until I drove the Nox with the 2.4. Like anyone, I enjoy a fast powerful car, but my days of laying rubber and jackrabbit starts at stoplights for no reason are long since over..the boring things like comfort, safety and gas mileage are more important to me now. That's not to say that at some point I won't buy a "toy" to tool around in on the weekends, or a truck for towing..but that's not what the Nox was designed for even though it can certainly be fun to drive for most people, and tow a decent amount with the V6.
 

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Like anyone, I enjoy a fast powerful car, but my days of laying rubber and jackrabbit starts at stoplights for no reason are long since over..the boring things like comfort, safety and gas mileage are more important to me now. That's not to say that at some point I won't buy a "toy" to tool around in on the weekends, or a truck for towing..but that's not what the Nox was designed for even though it can certainly be fun to drive for most people, and tow a decent amount with the V6.
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When I wan't a rush of acceleration I jump on my snowmobile in the winter. Fast vehicles tend to make me and probably other drivers as well drive fast which ends up costing money in fuel, tires and possible fines. A vehicle for us needs to be comfortable, practical, have very good fuel mileage and offer some luxury. The new Nox does all of that. It also appeals to my eye with it's good looks.

If I wanted a rocket I would of bought a Camaro SS.
 

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Just trying to increase the "fun to drive" quotient, not lay down low 13 second 1/4 mile ET's. That's what my 06 GT is for ;D
 

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13 sec et's in 1/4 mile is kinda slow. My 95 Impala SS was in mid 11's before I sold it to get some cash for my 4 Cyl (rocket). That's history but it would have been nice to have had a turbo on this 4 cyl Nox.
 

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That's history but it would have been nice to have had a turbo on this 4 cyl Nox.
No one says it still can't be done! Turbo or Supercharger. Maybe there's a kit with all the tuning as well available. With 4lbs - 8lbs of boost it may be almost as exciting as the 2.8T in the SRX and still durable.
 

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No one says it still can't be done! Turbo or Supercharger. Maybe there's a kit with all the tuning as well available. With 4lbs - 8lbs of boost it may be almost as exciting as the 2.8T in the SRX and still durable.
The LF1 is getting a twin turbo setup from GM (called LF3)...being the exhaust manifolds are cast into the block of the engine, that means installation onto the LF1 block will be the same across the board, just a matter of injectors, programming and other little things...Like lowering compression down to the 9's range vs the 11.7:1 it currently has. But that is definitely going to be an option down the road if someone wished to put alot of money into the car, but the tranny is the weak point.
 
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