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post #11 of 26 (permalink) Old 02-06-2019, 07:33 AM
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What's all this talk about a car being deaf? A Chevrolet Equinox can't hear. Well, maybe the radio can or the new fangled Onstar. But the car doesn't even have < ears >.

But if it does, all this deaf talk might hurt it's feelings !
I mean if it does have < ears >, it might have feelings.
Did anyone ever think of that? No wonder it might not start if it hears you talking down about being deaf !

What? What's that? You say "DEF" ? What is "DEF" ? Ouu u uh . . . . that's some kind of fluid that is put into the vehicle? It's not the same as "deaf"?
Oh well then . . .. sorry . . . .. . Never mind.
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before anyone asks....yes it was winterized fuel i didnt think i would need to use additive...

Even with winter fuel everyone around here adds fuel additive so the fuel does not gel.


Earlier this winter there was a bunch of wind turbine construction worker from southern states that had their diesel pickups gel and had to be towed in.


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Cheap def? How cheap? I got 5 gal of peak for 20 bucks...I'm kind of shocked def isnt being sold at a pump beside the diesel. Seems like a lot of waste with the jugs

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Cheap def? How cheap? I got 5 gal of peak for 20 bucks...I'm kind of shocked def isnt being sold at a pump beside the diesel. Seems like a lot of waste with the jugs

It is at some truck stations mainly here in NM.
Most stations i suspect do not have enough diesel traffic through to justify the cost of a tank or pump. Are you not more surprised that they donot sell windshield washer fluid out of a pump say

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Guess I can get it at rural king for under $7 for 2.5 gal..doubt the woman would appreciate a 55 gal drum

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Well windshield washer fluid isnt consumed like def is. Looking at some cars on the road I dont think they even know washer fluid exists

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Cheap def? How cheap? I got 5 gal of peak for 20 bucks...I'm kind of shocked def isnt being sold at a pump beside the diesel. Seems like a lot of waste with the jugs
$2.69 /gal vs. $10-14 / 2.5gal
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One really has to understand the characteristics of diesel fuel. #2 diesel will start to cloud at +15F. Filter issues will likely follow once temps go lower. Biodiesel is blended in to most diesel nowadays is varying percentages. Bio will start to cloud at +32F. And moisture is the third issue. All modern diesel engines return fuel to the tank from the rail. That makes diesel in the tank warmer than the ambient temperature. When the vehicle is shut off, the fuel cools and condensations then can become an issue. Most folks should take proactive measures with their diesel fuel if temps are going to be cold. Add a quality additive that protects from both gelling and freezing. If it is gong to be in polar vortex territory like many of us dealt with recently, a mix of 20-30% #1 diesel in the tank is advised.

My semi truck operated the entire period during this major cold snap. Minnesota, Wisconsin, Iowa, Nebraska, Illinois, and Indiana. Narry a fuel related issue. Finally on Friday morn of that week, I did need to replace a fuel filter. Easy job in less than 5 minutes while I was fueling in Walcott, Iowa.

It is one of the reasons I only get diesel engine vehicles when there is no other practical way to do things. Like my commercial trucking operation. But for my personal stuff, I avoid diesel like the plague. I go thru 21,000 gallons of diesel a year. I have 50 years of dealing with diesel issues including 10 years in Alaska. The glitz and glamour of diesel wears off real quick when one is sidelined along the road at -20F in the dark and one is having to change a fuel filter along side the road.

But some folks are gluttons for punishment. Unless they are very proactive about fuel management with their diesels.
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Cheap def? How cheap? I got 5 gal of peak for 20 bucks...I'm kind of shocked def isnt being sold at a pump beside the diesel. Seems like a lot of waste with the jugs
Avoid the common outlets and get your DEF at commercial truck dealerships and commercial lube shops. Allied Oil and Supply and the Mack Truck dealership near me in Des Moines, Iowa will fill any DEF tank on any vehicle that rolls in. Car, SUV, or truck. Last I checked, they were selling DEF from their bulk container at around $1.80 a gallon. They have traditionally been a full buck lower in price than the DEF pumps at truck stops.

I know that Allied and Mack will fill any container you bring in. Some local farmers come in with 55 drums in the back of their pickup and fill then with DEF.

If you are going to own diesels, then start thinking like a diesel owner and not a gas car owner.
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I was fueling in Walcott, Iowa.

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Good information in your posts.


Is Walcott still considered the largest truck stop in the world?


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