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post #1 of 22 (permalink) Old 01-18-2020, 04:06 PM Thread Starter
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My potential winter tire choice

At the current time, I am working in northern Pennsylvania and winter is upon us. The tires that came on my vehicle when purchased are more of a summer to all-season performance type tire and are failing miserably in this weather in the upper NE. Through my research I am looking into the Sumitomo ice Edge as a tire to get me through the time I have to be up here for business which could be till March. The tire gets great results so I am only looking for someone to justify a reason why I shouldn't purchase this tire due to its winter performance. These tires will be switched back out to my regular tires once I get back to Oklahoma.

**On a side note (and not important to some people), this tire bears the 3PMSF symbol for winter driving.**

Just a couple of things that may weight heavily in the debate....
  • My Terrain is FWD.
  • I don't want to break the bank for the short time I'll need tires, seasonally.
  • I could leave these tires on the wheels and use them as my winter set once I get back home as I am planning on buying different, more aesthetically pleasing wheels different tires than are currently on my Terrain and once I return to Oklahoma.
  • They are studdable if i decided to go that route.

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I see nothing wrong with your choice, as any dedicated winter tire would be superior to an all season or performance tire.

Have you looked at tirerack.com for your research? They have many winter tire options and brands and also have done testing to establish the best choices.

They offer wheel/tire packages mounted, balanced, and shipped to your door or an authorized installer.

I've used their service many times, and haven't been disappointed yet.

Even if you don't purchase from them, they're a great place to research and compare tires and wheels.

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I'm just going to address the studdable issue. Although I live in SC now, I spent most of my years in eastern Wa. state that sees it's fair share of winter weather. If Pa. allows studded tires by all means go for that option, they are superior in all regards on icy roads, traction, steering, and probably most important braking as long as you have them on all 4 corners. They are noisy on dry roads and your mpg will suffer, but the piece of mind is well worth it. One caveat tho, you will have to remove them and go back to your summer tires before returning to Oklahoma as most certainly your journey home will take you through states that don't allow studded tires.
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I see nothing wrong with your choice, as any dedicated winter tire would be superior to an all season or performance tire.

Have you looked at tirerack.com for your research? They have many winter tire options and brands and also have done testing to establish the best choices.

They offer wheel/tire packages mounted, balanced, and shipped to your door or an authorized installer.

I've used their service many times, and haven't been disappointed yet.

Even if you don't purchase from them, they're a great place to research and compare tires and wheels.
I did use TireRack as well as Discount Tire. This tire is very well revered as an option for winter with or without the studs. I originally brought my Silverado up here which has Duratracs on it, but they don't make them for this SUV with that particular wheel size so I thought this was a pretty good option for the price.

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I'm just going to address the studdable issue. Although I live in SC now, I spent most of my years in eastern Wa. state that sees it's fair share of winter weather. If Pa. allows studded tires by all means go for that option, they are superior in all regards on icy roads, traction, steering, and probably most important braking as long as you have them on all 4 corners. They are noisy on dry roads and your mpg will suffer, but the piece of mind is well worth it. One caveat tho, you will have to remove them and go back to your summer tires before returning to Oklahoma as most certainly your journey home will take you through states that don't allow studded tires.
They clear the roads here pretty quickly, but if you get out when the snow is coming in.....well that's a whole different story. And from what I hear about the black ice up here, especially on the mountain roads that I have to drive to work, studs are a great idea...I'm just not into the added expense and trouble. However, you can never put a price on safety, right!?!?

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They clear the roads here pretty quickly, but if you get out when the snow is coming in.....well that's a whole different story. And from what I hear about the black ice up here, especially on the mountain roads that I have to drive to work, studs are a great idea...I'm just not into the added expense and trouble. However, you can never put a price on safety, right!?!?

Thanks for your response.

I forgot to mention in my original post that if Oklahoma doesn't allow studded tires you would have to remove the studs before using those winter tires there, it can be done with sidecutters if there is enough of the nipple on the stud left or a small screwdriver to pry and needle nose pliers if not, but trust me, it's tedious and a PITA, so maybe something else for you to consider.
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I got bridgestone blizzak snow tires for my 19' terrain AWD and live in a lake effect snowbelt in N MI.. They have been outstanding and were "on sale" for $110 a piece. I feel as confident driving the terrain with these tires as I do my 4x4 silverado
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I grew up in New England and drove through a decade of winters. Granted, it was southern New England where snow can sometimes turn to rain, and I did live below the snow belt line ... so not terrible, but we got our share of major snowstorms, too. Never drove on anything but all-season radials. My father used snow tires when I was a kid, but once he started driving FWD vehicles, no more snow tires.

Are snow tires *really* necessary for anyone other than those who live way out in the boonies? You’ve got FWD, AWD, 4WD .... isn’t that good enough with all-season tires? I think I would buy a set of chains before I’d go through the aggravation of maintaining two sets of wheels. And then don’t you only need the snow tires for just a fraction of the time you have them on? So you’re swapping tires, then driving with noisy tires that are killing your MPGs most of the time. You gotta be driving on unplowed roads a lot to justify snow tires nowadays, I would think.

Even up in Canada. They must be right on top of snow plowing of roads it’s so commonplace, no? Everybody’s swapping tires all the time??

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I believe that the best vehicle and tire combo is the one that is behind the wheel. How you drive is the best determining factor. I can speak from experience as snow comes before Halloween and stays until just after Easter with the odd storm after. All my vehicles are AWD or 4x4 and have been for the last quarter century, through 3 Broncos, an Aerostar and Jeeps, now Suburban and Terrain. All of them have had snows. Is it a pain to swap them, yes I suppose if you were getting a garage to do it but not in my case. Is it more costly, yes up front however, you now have two sets of tires and wheels if you do it right and then you have doubled the life of your boots. I had a 2016 Dodge Journey AWD, and traded it for the Terrain, it also had snows, which are now being used by the Terrain, rims were changed to fit, however I did rent an identical Journey and it had just the normal solus tires that it came with, what a difference, it could not get out of its own way and slid and would spin. Its just my opinion and I respect anybody elses but snowtires are a great idea.
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Are snow tires *really* necessary for anyone other than those who live way out in the boonies? Youíve got FWD, AWD, 4WD .... isnít that good enough with all-season tires? I think I would buy a set of chains before Iíd go through the aggravation of maintaining two sets of wheels. And then donít you only need the snow tires for just a fraction of the time you have them on? So youíre swapping tires, then driving with noisy tires that are killing your MPGs most of the time. You gotta be driving on unplowed roads a lot to justify snow tires nowadays, I would think.

Even up in Canada. They must be right on top of snow plowing of roads itís so commonplace, no? Everybodyís swapping tires all the time??
I thought the same as you until the wife and I purchased a pair of Chevy Sonic's in 2012 as daily drivers. They were both LTZ trim and had the largest Hankook tire option with all season ratings.

They were just awful in snow; you couldn't stop, start or turn with those tires.

I purchased a set of OEM wheels from a Forum member, and got some winter tires from Tire Rack. It was a completely different vehicle in the snow with the winter tires.

I'm sure that some all season tires perform quite well in some applications, but from my experience with our vehicles with the OEM all seasons installed; it was a white knuckle experience every time it snowed.


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