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post #41 of 85 (permalink) Old 12-18-2017, 12:06 PM Thread Starter
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They are great on dry and wet roads. Quiet and smooth, I will give them that.

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Ok.. we got 12 inches of snow on Tuesday.. can confirm that Hanooks are total complete absolute garbage in thick wet heavy snow. Way too slick! But back to my dilemma.. today the roads have been cleared and I have no issues.. do I fork over the money for winters

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Look at it this way...The snows will probably cost less per tire than the replacement tires that you'll eventually need. So, if the snows are able to displace the wear out of your summer tires, then it is actually the cheaper way to run your tires. But, if you don't agree on that logic...if the snows help you to avoid a Winter accident or provide an extra degree of safety, then it definitely is the way to go.

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You are totally right. If you run summers and winters it will extend the rubber for basically the time I keep the vehicle. It makes sense for sure. Just need to scrounge up $1500 for rims/rubber and sensors. Who's in to donate to a gofundme ha!

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Don't know what it is with the Hankooks car makers choose for OEM tires. I suppose they go for the EPA mileage along with the best deal they can get from a tire maker.

Had the Hankooks on our daughter's 2014 Sonic she bought new in July of 2014. The first snow of only about 3" and we got a phone call from her all frantic and wigged out. She could barely go around city street corners at 4 mph. And stopping at traffic lights.. . well, she had to keep 7 or 8 car lengths and watch for light changes a city block ahead and start letting off the gas pedal and lightly braking. Even then she said they would start to slide on the slick stuff up closer to the traffic stop.

They are summer tires. Ok in rain and drive pavement. Horrific in any amount of snow or ice.

Go to Tirerack and read up on OEM installed Hankook tire models. Bad reviews of anyone in the snow belt.

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So for the Canadian markert Chevy is offering the Nox with a "True North Edition" which has the 19" wheels and of course the Hanooks.... I find it funny that a tire that seems to be noted for crummy snow performance would be part of a unique Canadian edition.. when all it does up here is snow haha!
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From "Truck Trends" test report 7-10-17:
We also found the 18-inch wheel/tire combination to have a rougher ride quality than the 19-inch counterpart. Usually bigger wheels mean lower-profile tire sidewalls with less flexibility. This unusual phenomenon is likely due to different tire choices.
Chevrolet is using Michelin Premier LTX tires for the former setup and Hankook Ventus S1 rubber for the latter. Usually, there’s nothing wrong and everything right with Michelin products. But the sidewalls in this application don’t have the right kind of flex to complement the suspension, making the road surface feel rougher than it should. There’s a kind of “nibbling” effect, especially at low and medium speeds. The 19-inch tires from Hankook, however, have the right kind of flex and even out most surface imperfections. It makes us wonder why Chevrolet decided on that Michelin tire in the first place, especially when Ventus S1 tires are available in 18-inch form.

Maybe the above tests gives some reasons they use the Hankooks. However, in addition to being poor in winter, Hankooks cost a lot more than the Michelin Premier and have been reported to wear poorly. Many would also strongly prefer that GM use tires produced in North America instead of importing from China.
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You are totally right. If you run summers and winters it will extend the rubber for basically the time I keep the vehicle. It makes sense for sure. Just need to scrounge up $1500 for rims/rubber and sensors. Who's in to donate to a gofundme ha!
When you get the snows, get 17" wheels/tires. They will save you some money, and be better in the snow. I had Michelin X-ice from my '10 which had excellent thread left, and I picked up 4 wheels from TireRack for just over $400. I was able to pick them up in Delaware while visiting daughter, and saved shipping and tax.

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From "Truck Trends" test report 7-10-17:
We also found the 18-inch wheel/tire combination to have a rougher ride quality than the 19-inch counterpart. Usually bigger wheels mean lower-profile tire sidewalls with less flexibility. This unusual phenomenon is likely due to different tire choices.
Chevrolet is using Michelin Premier LTX tires for the former setup and Hankook Ventus S1 rubber for the latter. Usually, there’s nothing wrong and everything right with Michelin products. But the sidewalls in this application don’t have the right kind of flex to complement the suspension, making the road surface feel rougher than it should. There’s a kind of “nibbling” effect, especially at low and medium speeds. The 19-inch tires from Hankook, however, have the right kind of flex and even out most surface imperfections. It makes us wonder why Chevrolet decided on that Michelin tire in the first place, especially when Ventus S1 tires are available in 18-inch form.

Maybe the above tests gives some reasons they use the Hankooks. However, in addition to being poor in winter, Hankooks cost a lot more than the Michelin Premier and have been reported to wear poorly. Many would also strongly prefer that GM use tires produced in North America instead of importing from China.
I've always had misgivings about Hankook tires. Glad to know that I'm not the only one. I'll drive cautiously until I've managed to save $$$ to replace them with something more road-worthy!
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I have about 80,000 miles on 4 Yokohama Avid Ascend tires. They are pretty bad in the rain and really bad in the snow. When on drive pavement they ride really well and stick really nice.
The center of the tire has a big belt of rubber that has no treads. I assume this is to help reduce rolling resistance. The tread that is on the tires is very non aggressive.
I drive very very carefully on wet and snowy roads. I have to say they have forced me to be better driver ....every cloud has a silver lining.
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