All I want is a test drive

[loach]

Just out of curiosity, do you use Homelink for anything other than a garage door opener?

Nope - not really a deciding factor either - just one of the first things that came to mind as I was typing my message.  Things I'll have in my Murano LE that I can't get in the Terrain:

Homelink
Heated rear seats
Dual moonroof (many people would call this an advantage but I couldn't give a rip about the 2nd fixed pane in the backseat - actually prefer the convential single sunroof in the Terrain)
Overhead console sunglasses holder (pet peeve of mine)
Rain-sensing wipers
Power tilt/telescoping steering wheel with memory settings
Power rear seat return (I know - big whoop)
Dual zone climate control
Auto-up drivers window (I think)
Intelligent key system with push-button start

Major features I'm missing on Murano that are available on Terrain:
Remote start
Onstar
Sliding rear seat

The Terrain/Equinox is an interesting vehicle in that most people think it competes with smaller CUVs like the CRV, Rav4, Escape, Rogue, etc.  But it's actually closer in many dimensions to the Murano, Venza, Edge, Santa Fe, etc.  I shopped it against the latter vehicles.  When I told the Nissan salesman that I was looking at the Terrain/Equinox, he started trying to push the Rogue on me.  I think he was scared that he would lose out based on price (although I ended up getting a nearly loaded Murano (sans RSE) for a price maybe $1-2K higher than I would have paid for a Terrain SLT-2 with nav).  

EDIT: Deleted references to DVD-based nav in the Terrain/Nox based on clarifying posts below.

[loach]

That's a bummer.   You'll also miss out on:

- Better MPG
- Electronic gear selection
- Hill holding
- On Star
- Estimated higher resale value
- and keeping more jobs here in the U.S.

-Murano AWD MPG is 18 city/23 hwy vs 17/24 for Terrain AWD V6.  Since most of my driving is city, I have no doubt I will get better real-world mileage with the Murano.   
- Electronic gear selection - Have it in my Acadia and don't use it.
- Hill holding - didn't know/don't really care
- Onstar - like it in my Acadia which is our trip/weekend vehicle, but simply isn't that important in my commuter vehicle
- Resale value I seriously doubt will be worse than a GM vehicle, but even if it is, this is simply never a factor in my buying decisions.  I keep my vehicles 10 years, so none of them are worth squat when I'm done with them.
- Jobs in the U.S. - Terrain is built in Canada, eh?

[NY_Joe]

Both of the Nox/Terrain with NAV.

I was going to say we have the 10GB Hard Drive andI thought NAV was hard drive based.

[loach]

I was going to say we have the 10GB Hard Drive andI thought NAV was hard drive based.

GMC.com says it's DVD based in the specs but I suppose it could be wrong.  Not sure why they would make a radio with a hard drive and then not use the hard drive for navigation. 

[loach]

The Nox/Terrain have 40GB hard drives.  30GB is used for NAV, and 10GB is available for music/movies.

It does require a DVD to load the maps, but no DVD is required for continuous operation.

That makes more sense - thanks for clarifying.  Still don't understand why they would want to advertise it as "DVD-based" though.  For those of us who have true DVD-based nav systems without hard drives (like the one in my Acadia), it sounds like a bad thing. 

[gearhead]

-Murano AWD MPG is 18 city/23 hwy vs 17/24 for Terrain AWD V6.  Since most of my driving is city, I have no doubt I will get better real-world mileage with the Murano.  
- Electronic gear selection - Have it in my Acadia and don't use it.
- Hill holding - didn't know/don't really care
- Onstar - like it in my Acadia which is our trip/weekend vehicle, but simply isn't that important in my commuter vehicle
- Resale value I seriously doubt will be worse than a GM vehicle, but even if it is, this is simply never a factor in my buying decisions.  I keep my vehicles 10 years, so none of them are worth squat when I'm done with them.
- Jobs in the U.S. - Terrain is built in Canada, eh?

I'm not one to be picky on such matters since it's your money and a global economy, although I must throw in my two cents.

1) As far as I know, the Murano is built in Japan.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nissan_Murano

Thanks for helping their economy.

2) Thanks for purchasing the technology they copied from North American engineering and manufacturing techniques over the past 30 years, perhaps longer. From chassis development, underbody and body structure, drivetrain design then all the way to primer/paint application and final assembly, North American engineering has pioneered, refined and set the standard for 90% of the mass produced vehicles on the world's roads today.

3) Transplants (foreign manufacturers who've established manufacturing centers in North America), although they may provide employment to North Americans, send 80% of their profits back to their home countries. That is fact.

4) GM is now majority owned by the people of the United States and Canada, both countries having worked hand in hand over the centuries to be some of the most sharing and peaceful neighbours in the world, never mind the help they give to the rest of the world.

Support your own for heavens sake. After all, it's your bailout money you're paying back to yourself!!!

[loach]

I'm not one to be picky on such matters since it's your money and a global economy, although I must throw in my two cents.

1) As far as I know, the Murano is built in Japan.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nissan_Murano

Thanks for helping their economy.

I figured the conversation would turn this direction eventually.  Not going to participate in the simplistic buy American debate and don't even get me started on the bailout.  So I will take this as my cue to exit stage right.  Here's hoping everyone enjoys your vehicles.  As GM's own advertising says "may the best car win".

[gearhead]

I figured the conversation would turn this direction eventually.  Not going to participate in the simplistic buy American debate and don't even get me started on the bailout.  So I will take this as my cue to exit stage right.  Here's hoping everyone enjoys your vehicles.  As GM's own advertising says "may the best car win".

If it was so simplistic, we wouldn't be in this mess would we?
But alas, it is what it is and we've made our choices as have our Governments.

Anyway, you're right, no need to bring politics into a discussion and support forum for GMC Terrains.
Nor is there a need to rub the competition's specs in our face.
I'm sure most here have done a fair amount of research before purchasing, let alone engaging in conversation about, their GM products.

Indeed, may the best car win.
Oh and please don't take this personally as I have no horse in any race (per se. As I stated the choice is yours, it's your money, no one twisted your arm, etc., etc. I don't work for GM or this Forum), but you admit yourself you saw this coming so I guess you're getting what you asked for.
Kinda masochistic, isn't it?

[Islander]

Well said Gearhead!

[Narg]

Also, one fact that most Americans forget, or just plain don't know is that even though a car may be "built" here on American soil, that's only 1/2 the work done to make a car.  There is still the engineering, the design, the marketing, and the profits made on the final product.  All those go overseas for foriegn brands.  That's far more jobs, support and taxes than an assembly line can support.

[Motorman]

I'm not one to be picky on such matters since it's your money and a global economy, although I must throw in my two cents.

1) As far as I know, the Murano is built in Japan.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nissan_Murano

Thanks for helping their economy.

2) Thanks for purchasing the technology they copied from North American engineering and manufacturing techniques over the past 30 years, perhaps longer. From chassis development, underbody and body structure, drivetrain design then all the way to primer/paint application and final assembly, North American engineering has pioneered, refined and set the standard for 90% of the mass produced vehicles on the world's roads today.

3) Transplants (foreign manufacturers who've established manufacturing centers in North America), although they may provide employment to North Americans, send 80% of their profits back to their home countries. That is fact.

4) GM is now majority owned by the people of the United States and Canada, both countries having worked hand in hand over the centuries to be some of the most sharing and peaceful neighbours in the world, never mind the help they give to the rest of the world.

Support your own for heavens sake. After all, it's your bailout money you're paying back to yourself!!!

I wish loach well w/ his decision.  I guess he wasn't around/never studies WW ll.  I'm far from anti-Jap/ German/Italian  but the "Big 3" saved our Country and the world (no matter who the countries involved were/are next time).  Decimating them is a huge mistake. Yup...I'll even pay more if it means my kids have a shot at a career where "want fries with that burger?" isn't the main possibility,  in a free Country. 


JIMHO 
Peace

MM

[Daemon]

I'm not one to be picky on such matters since it's your money and a global economy, although I must throw in my two cents.

1) As far as I know, the Murano is built in Japan.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nissan_Murano

Thanks for helping their economy.

2) Thanks for purchasing the technology they copied from North American engineering and manufacturing techniques over the past 30 years, perhaps longer. From chassis development, underbody and body structure, drivetrain design then all the way to primer/paint application and final assembly, North American engineering has pioneered, refined and set the standard for 90% of the mass produced vehicles on the world's roads today.

3) Transplants (foreign manufacturers who've established manufacturing centers in North America), although they may provide employment to North Americans, send 80% of their profits back to their home countries. That is fact.

4) GM is now majority owned by the people of the United States and Canada, both countries having worked hand in hand over the centuries to be some of the most sharing and peaceful neighbours in the world, never mind the help they give to the rest of the world.

Support your own for heavens sake. After all, it's your bailout money you're paying back to yourself!!!

Probably the smartest comment ive seen in years about that matter.

Sad but true